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The anime is bullshit in terms of consistency, to the point I say that you don't know DBS if you hadn't read the manga. The manga has it's own share of flaws (mostly in this moro saga) but it's a much, much more coherent version of the story.

Nope, that line was also in the movies and Toei simply incorporated it into the series. The problem here is that between the movies and the serialization of Super's manga Toriyama decided to retcon a few things from the movies. That's what has been retconned in the manga from the very beginning...

Freeza's weakest form maximum power is 530.000 as he said. But from the fact that Vegeta was panting and Freeza wasn't, we can agree in that Vegeta was using more strength than Freeza (proportionally speaking of course) so Vegeta's power was below Freeza's 530.000. How much, it depends on...

Beerus after seeing your TL I got motivated and thought I would make one like yours because it really helps to explain the scenario. That would be my vision on how the Time Travels really went:

I took that statement as a general description of what she potentially could have been, but at the same time it's undeniable that: 1. Vegitto took a senzu bean when Goku and Vegeta fused while being injured in the Black saga, so canonically speaking, it was established that fusions are weaker if...

Yes in the Black saga the time sheaningans were much more simple (in the manga, in the anime nothing made sense with Black travelling to the past without creating a TL, Goku influencing Zamatsu when he was investigating Black, creating a circular time-paradox that contradicts the multi-verse...

What you're overlooking is that Cell travels to 1 year prior Trunk's first arrival on the past. In other words, Cell can kill the 1st Time Line Trunks because when he travels to the past, he goes 1 year before Trunks' arrival. So when Trunks arrives in the TL we see, in reality we already have...

I wouldn't make the differences as big (for example Freeza < 5 and then Golden Freeza 100), but the main point I would disagree is in SSJ Kefla and Mystic Gohan. SSJ Kefla was the product of two very weakened fighters fusing. She was able to control herself and overpowered the weaklings of...

In my personal quest of explaining to the world how badly written were the DB Daizenshuu guides, and how they completely misunderstood Toriyama's story at every single level, it's now time to demonstrate that they couldn't understand the Cell saga timelines either. First, Daizenshuu's take on...

I also felt that base Broly being above SSJGod and below SSJBlue was a bit too much, but I can forgive that. The scene that it was obvious that Toriyama didn't wrrte and that should truly be cut in a director's cut verion of the movie is the first round between Goku and Broly. Through Vegeta we...

In RoF Toriyama only wrote the parts involving Freeza and the main plot points, and left the z-warriors vs Freezer's army to the Toei's writters (the part of the movie that really stinks, has no purpose and breaks the internal coherence of the series). His involvement in those parts is more than...

You're free to disagree as much as you want, of course, I'm just saying that the manga statements points towards Vegeta matching A18 in brute strength, and that was never contradicted even once.. Regards!

The hint, to me, is that Cell doesn't attack him despite having the surprise factor in his side. I mean, if he was stronger than SSJ Vegeta that would have been a very easy and convenient prey for him. SSJ Vegeta was a tad stronger in my opinion (there would still be a nice fight between them)...

When Cell hides from SSJ Vegeta he was surprised by how storng Vegeta was. Cell was strong, but he was still stated to be considerably weaker than both androids, while SSJ Vegeta managed to equal A18 in strength (even if he lost because of the stamina). Cell avoided Piccolo, but if he had been...

A 2x gap I think is far too much, though it's true that they could be a bit higher. Cell at 4,250,000 A16 at 4,100,000 This would make the difference big enough for the superiority they displayed over Piccolo and A17. Yes, the Daizenshuu numbers contradict the manga. Raditz at 1500, Nappa at...

Which ones would you change? :) Regards!

Raditz arrival Spoiler: Son Goku (with weights): 334 --> full power: 416 --> Kamehameha: 924 Piccolo Junior (with weights): 322 -- full power: 408 -- Makankosappo: 1,330 Raditz: 1,250 Raditz 1500 would make him stronger than the Makankosappo which would break the whole logic of the fight...