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Bad Take: Goku and Chi-Chi have a dysfunctional marriage
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<blockquote data-quote="Boom" data-source="post: 9598" data-attributes="member: 332"><p>They're both shitty spouses. </p><p></p><p>Chi Chi, for whatever reason, has remained in this relationship despite how much she clearly has problems with Goku up and wrecking any plans she has for her kids (be those good or bad for them and how she pursues them). From a young age she basically was always in control and that has grown with her into adulthood, and thank goodness because there has to be at least one adult in their household. The problem is Chi Chi then presses these bizarre expectations on someone who might have a mental disorder because while he's really good at fighting, Goku seems to be really bad at any other task or social norm. Like someone else pointed out: Chi Chi is basically Goku's mom and for some reason she has made her peace with that despite getting upset about her lot in life pretty often. This up to and includes chastising Goku for not bringing home any money while basically consuming a village worth of resources at any given time, despite her father Supplementing their income for a long while until Super, where it's revealed the Ox King lost all his money in Fire Mountain. And then she has to force Goku to actually make money and contribute to the household and it's just bizarre that she never cared what the heck he brought home before seeing as he only ever won one tournament up to this point. She stresses easily and vents it liberally on all those around her, utilizing guilt as a weapon against her own family.</p><p></p><p>Goku, on the other hand, either obfuscates idiocy or is mentally declining as he takes more and more blows to the head with his lifestyle. At this point Goku shouldn't really be all this confused at the prospect of a relationship as Chi Chi has pretty much laid it out for him and his friends around him have demonstrated more successful relationships. If anything, he sort of treats Chi Chi as a nuisance who gets in his way akin to a possibly spoiled child and is just as likely to ditch whatever promise he has going on with her to pursue that childish (though it turns out necessary) goal. We know Goku should know better as at least the very concept of a job isn't so alien to him that he can't grasp it, having had one as a child and finally again one as an adult when the Ox King can no longer basically pay for the Son household. It's here we see Goku can easily grasp new and potentially complex subjects when he becomes a master farmer in no time at all while having the best crops in comparison to lifelong farmers. And even then, going back to Goku flaking out, he takes the earliest opportunity to stop doing this when he lets his son operate a tractor and almost kills the kid, and then ultimately supremely flakes out on his family when Satan just gives Goku money and Goku is like, "Chi Chi will like that. Time to GTFO of here!" and zooms off to fulfill his fun cravings after giving the money to Chi Chi. And this is emblematic of his lifestyle, bargaining with Chi Chi's needs and wants for her family so he can go off on his own or with his son, whom he largely relegates raising to other people. And he'd pull the same farming trick again on Piccolo and Krillin so he can buzz off and train. This is even a trait he passes on to Goten, leaving Chi Chi constantly worried about the very whereabouts of her family when he just straight refuses to let her know where he even is after being critically injured. Heck, lying to or trying to keep secrets from Chi Chi seems to be Goku's most likely interaction with her from what we see of them.</p><p></p><p>Though it's really critical to note just how important these two are to one another. Any harmful dig at one enrages the other (Chi Chi more than Goku), up to with Goku nearly losing control when Future Trunks talks about Chi Chi and Goten's deaths.</p><p></p><p>Or, and I think this is what's really happening, Toriyama had no clue how to represent their relationship and just didn't care so long as it sorta represented that part of the life cycle and got the characters he needed in Gohan and Goten.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Boom, post: 9598, member: 332"] They're both shitty spouses. Chi Chi, for whatever reason, has remained in this relationship despite how much she clearly has problems with Goku up and wrecking any plans she has for her kids (be those good or bad for them and how she pursues them). From a young age she basically was always in control and that has grown with her into adulthood, and thank goodness because there has to be at least one adult in their household. The problem is Chi Chi then presses these bizarre expectations on someone who might have a mental disorder because while he's really good at fighting, Goku seems to be really bad at any other task or social norm. Like someone else pointed out: Chi Chi is basically Goku's mom and for some reason she has made her peace with that despite getting upset about her lot in life pretty often. This up to and includes chastising Goku for not bringing home any money while basically consuming a village worth of resources at any given time, despite her father Supplementing their income for a long while until Super, where it's revealed the Ox King lost all his money in Fire Mountain. And then she has to force Goku to actually make money and contribute to the household and it's just bizarre that she never cared what the heck he brought home before seeing as he only ever won one tournament up to this point. She stresses easily and vents it liberally on all those around her, utilizing guilt as a weapon against her own family. Goku, on the other hand, either obfuscates idiocy or is mentally declining as he takes more and more blows to the head with his lifestyle. At this point Goku shouldn't really be all this confused at the prospect of a relationship as Chi Chi has pretty much laid it out for him and his friends around him have demonstrated more successful relationships. If anything, he sort of treats Chi Chi as a nuisance who gets in his way akin to a possibly spoiled child and is just as likely to ditch whatever promise he has going on with her to pursue that childish (though it turns out necessary) goal. We know Goku should know better as at least the very concept of a job isn't so alien to him that he can't grasp it, having had one as a child and finally again one as an adult when the Ox King can no longer basically pay for the Son household. It's here we see Goku can easily grasp new and potentially complex subjects when he becomes a master farmer in no time at all while having the best crops in comparison to lifelong farmers. And even then, going back to Goku flaking out, he takes the earliest opportunity to stop doing this when he lets his son operate a tractor and almost kills the kid, and then ultimately supremely flakes out on his family when Satan just gives Goku money and Goku is like, "Chi Chi will like that. Time to GTFO of here!" and zooms off to fulfill his fun cravings after giving the money to Chi Chi. And this is emblematic of his lifestyle, bargaining with Chi Chi's needs and wants for her family so he can go off on his own or with his son, whom he largely relegates raising to other people. And he'd pull the same farming trick again on Piccolo and Krillin so he can buzz off and train. This is even a trait he passes on to Goten, leaving Chi Chi constantly worried about the very whereabouts of her family when he just straight refuses to let her know where he even is after being critically injured. Heck, lying to or trying to keep secrets from Chi Chi seems to be Goku's most likely interaction with her from what we see of them. Though it's really critical to note just how important these two are to one another. Any harmful dig at one enrages the other (Chi Chi more than Goku), up to with Goku nearly losing control when Future Trunks talks about Chi Chi and Goten's deaths. Or, and I think this is what's really happening, Toriyama had no clue how to represent their relationship and just didn't care so long as it sorta represented that part of the life cycle and got the characters he needed in Gohan and Goten. [/QUOTE]
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