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Collectivism (Deep Discussion)
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<blockquote data-quote="India Actual" data-source="post: 14049" data-attributes="member: 80"><p>I'm a Jefferson kind of guy. "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." The problem with collectivist types of rule that rely on deep centralization is that you either get a total democracy that votes itself into non-existence or you get despotic centralized power that decides on what the rest of the collective receives based on merit or loyalty. Look at China and their social credit scores. If you don't follow what the party says you get docked points and it affects how you can live your life. You may be barred from owning property, opening a bank account, traveling internationally, etc. People need a broad set of guide lines to live by like America has in our Constitution and let the states decide how they want to run themselves as long as it doesn't infringe upon any Constitutional rights. Which are basic human rights. Live and let live, be cordial to your neighbor, and do your thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="India Actual, post: 14049, member: 80"] I'm a Jefferson kind of guy. "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." The problem with collectivist types of rule that rely on deep centralization is that you either get a total democracy that votes itself into non-existence or you get despotic centralized power that decides on what the rest of the collective receives based on merit or loyalty. Look at China and their social credit scores. If you don't follow what the party says you get docked points and it affects how you can live your life. You may be barred from owning property, opening a bank account, traveling internationally, etc. People need a broad set of guide lines to live by like America has in our Constitution and let the states decide how they want to run themselves as long as it doesn't infringe upon any Constitutional rights. Which are basic human rights. Live and let live, be cordial to your neighbor, and do your thing. [/QUOTE]
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