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Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Universe
extremely unpopular opinion: I think the saiyans ruined dragonball - or at the very least are a big symptom of a bigger problem (read to the end)
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<blockquote data-quote="Livianthe3rd" data-source="post: 53703" data-attributes="member: 1784"><p>Okay I'm very late to this discussion but i think Buu saga is when everything went downhill, it went from Dragon Ball to Super Saiyan show, the amount of Transformations the characters have are ridiculous like super saiyan 1,2,3 ( and 4 if you count Gt) i also don't like the fans in this fandom anymore because a majority will complain if the plot isn't about goku and vegeta and their bs saiyan powers. Their's a reason why i liked the Dragon ball super hero movie, it's because it finally gave Piccolo a transformation! (I didn't care much for Beast Gohan) they need to do the same for Tien ( bro's been training for years but doesn't get f all because he's a human <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😒" title="Unamused face :unamused:" src="https://twemoji.maxcdn.com/2/72x72/1f612.png" data-shortname=":unamused:" />)</p><p></p><p>The reason Goku was stronger than everyone in Og dragon is because he was based off of Sun Wukong (the strongest Chinese mythological character) so having him be part of a race which is exactly like him in terms of power/strength takes away what made him special in the first place. Kid Goku still lost people who were either stronger than him or had better fighting strategies, he got his ass kicked by Mr. Popo when he was a kid and even Yamcha when he first went to the Diablo Desert with Bulma, he eventually surpassed these people, why? Because he learned martial arts and the foundations of it, and learned STRATEGY!</p><p></p><p>if you compare Kid Goku to Goten, Goten's power makes no fking sense, they is literally no reason for him to be so op and transform into a super saiyan at will, and he went super saiyan just from sparring with his Chi-Chi......his mother????? So Goku went Super from seeing his closest childhood best friend get obliterated into ashes by Frieza and Gohan went Super Saiyan 2 from seeing someone he barley knew get his head smashed mercilessly into a bloody mess by an evil bug man......but Goten went Super by training....with his mother????</p><p></p><p> This just a start on one the many jarring issues i have with the Buu such as the wasted potential of Videl, and Android 18 not doing anything in this arc at all (which is something Super made up for with the universe survival arc)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Livianthe3rd, post: 53703, member: 1784"] Okay I'm very late to this discussion but i think Buu saga is when everything went downhill, it went from Dragon Ball to Super Saiyan show, the amount of Transformations the characters have are ridiculous like super saiyan 1,2,3 ( and 4 if you count Gt) i also don't like the fans in this fandom anymore because a majority will complain if the plot isn't about goku and vegeta and their bs saiyan powers. Their's a reason why i liked the Dragon ball super hero movie, it's because it finally gave Piccolo a transformation! (I didn't care much for Beast Gohan) they need to do the same for Tien ( bro's been training for years but doesn't get f all because he's a human 😒) The reason Goku was stronger than everyone in Og dragon is because he was based off of Sun Wukong (the strongest Chinese mythological character) so having him be part of a race which is exactly like him in terms of power/strength takes away what made him special in the first place. Kid Goku still lost people who were either stronger than him or had better fighting strategies, he got his ass kicked by Mr. Popo when he was a kid and even Yamcha when he first went to the Diablo Desert with Bulma, he eventually surpassed these people, why? Because he learned martial arts and the foundations of it, and learned STRATEGY! if you compare Kid Goku to Goten, Goten's power makes no fking sense, they is literally no reason for him to be so op and transform into a super saiyan at will, and he went super saiyan just from sparring with his Chi-Chi......his mother????? So Goku went Super from seeing his closest childhood best friend get obliterated into ashes by Frieza and Gohan went Super Saiyan 2 from seeing someone he barley knew get his head smashed mercilessly into a bloody mess by an evil bug man......but Goten went Super by training....with his mother???? This just a start on one the many jarring issues i have with the Buu such as the wasted potential of Videl, and Android 18 not doing anything in this arc at all (which is something Super made up for with the universe survival arc) [/QUOTE]
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