General Politics Thread

Rapture said:
Nah, hit me whats your thoughts.
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Pride month is a gloried self-celebration specifically for one's own sexual desires/interests and the fact that there is a pride MONTH simply celebrating who people bang or how they identify and many other people get honored for a single day (if that) for actual achievements is ridiculous. Like being gay or whatever isn't an achievement. Most people do not care if someone is gay, lesbian, etc. and all of that comes secondary to who someone is as a person. I care about content of character, not who someone is sexually attracted to or what they feel about themselves. It feels regressive. Like how people judge someone based on the color of their skin, it is arbitrary.

It is just one aspect of who a person is. I understand the rights aspect but it has become less about a gathering for rights and achievements to nation wide kink shows. I have seen plenty of videos coming out of places like New York, Cali, Chicago, etc. that show grown ass naked men and women walking around in public around kids to not be okay with it. And yeah, this is on the parents but you should not be allowed to be in a public area naked, swinging dildos, and simulating sex or showing off your sexual fetishes. If you want to celebrate lifestyles, do it in adult settings. Have "pride parties" in night clubs or whatever.

I always point to Japan for an example. If pride parades were just people walking together, holding flags, and spreading love (not sexualized habits) it would be whatever but it has become overrun by people just wanting to be as depraved in public as possible. Plenty of people that fall under the LGBT grouping have come out against these events because they have experienced it first hand and they don't want that to be representation for them.

All this to say that I don't think a month long celebration for things people can't control (who they are sexually attracted) is necessary. If it was more about show casing people like Alan Turing and his achievements and honoring people like him, I would be fine with it. But it is not this. It is just self-gratification and focused primarily on sex and sexual lifestyles over achievements.

I've got nothing against people that aren't straight or "of the norm". I don't treat them any differently even though my opinions may come off as blunt. But if you are a sexual deviant, straight or gay or whatever, it is something that shouldn't be celebrated. It is self-destructive behavior. I'd feel no differently if it was a bunch of straight people doing this crap. When people place their primary value as being sex objects, kinks, etc. I will never view it as a good thing. It is not a sign of a healthy culture or healthy for a society as a whole.
 
And I will go as far to say that I don't put the blame on people that want this stuff because society in westernized nations as a whole are experiencing cultural decay across the board. Everything that is promoted, celebrated, and uplifted is about "self" and feeling good. We live in a culture and time period that is lead by narcissists and selfishness. None of this behavior is good for society. I am even guilty of being selfish myself. Family, community, achievements, purpose, value, honesty, loyalty, self-sacrifice, self-discipline, and so on build strong long-lasting societies and cultures. Everything right now is going against that. And notice I didn't even mention God. That is what I think is missing the most in people's lives, hearts, and minds. When you live a life with a greater power being outside of yourself, you view life vastly differently.
 
Chat, this is the most outside pilled take. People who flaunt the fact they are queer in an obsene way, fine, those people are kinda just perverts at that point, however they are an exception. And saying its mostly about sex is just not true??? to me any many other queer people I know are that way just for the fact that they simply are attracted to others without exception ROMANTICALLY, and I think its fair that we get a month because its not like gay people haven't faced EMENCE hardship through out history and still to this day because jeez its still bad. For example most races or biological genders arent just barred from going places. on the flipside LGBTQ+ people are kind of just ILLEGAL in around 71 countries... how many places are you illegal in? Not to mention a lot of legislation in the U.S. being extremely (cough couch its mostly the right) I could be executed, sentenced, harrassed, etc just for liking men. like cmon now. Not to mention the coin flip of coming out to people. Because you either get my father who personally didn't get it but still accepted it because I'm his son, or my mom who just fucking disowned me. Like wtf. you'll find people are outwardly homophobic more often than overtly racist. Not to say at all it was nearly as bad as what several races sush as blacks, hispanics, indians, asians. have faced in the past. Look its just say that saying that queer people don't deserve to be celebrated for at least a month is crazy.

I feel as though thats between the person and God, and no one else. Shit didn't it say in the bible that those who judge others will to face judgement as it isn't their place to judge??? Oh an people like to bring up sodom and gomorahh, there was WAY more happening there than people being gay for god to fucking cecil a WHOLE CITY.
 
Rapture said:
Chat, this is the most outside pilled take. People who flaunt the fact they are queer in an obsene way, fine, those people are kinda just perverts at that point, however they are an exception. And saying its mostly about sex is just not true??? to me any many other queer people I know are that way just for the fact that they simply are attracted to others without exception ROMANTICALLY, and I think its fair that we get a month because its not like gay people haven't faced EMENCE hardship through out history and still to this day because jeez its still bad. For example most races or biological genders arent just barred from going places. on the flipside LGBTQ+ people are kind of just ILLEGAL in around 71 countries... how many places are you illegal in? Not to mention a lot of legislation in the U.S. being extremely (cough couch its mostly the right) I could be executed, sentenced, harrassed, etc just for liking men. like cmon now. Not to mention the coin flip of coming out to people. Because you either get my father who personally didn't get it but still accepted it because I'm his son, or my mom who just fucking disowned me. Like wtf. you'll find people are outwardly homophobic more often than overtly racist. Not to say at all it was nearly as bad as what several races sush as blacks, hispanics, indians, asians. have faced in the past. Look its just say that saying that queer people don't deserve to be celebrated for at least a month is crazy.
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The points I made went over your head. You are younger so I don't expect you to have the same experiences or views. You will see things differently when you get older. The old saying goes if you aren't a liberal when you are young you have no heart, if your aren't conservative when you are older you have no brain. You are viewing it from a self-fulling view points and experiences. Wanting to make sure everyone is happy, represented, loved, accepted and that is good but life will never be that way. Life is vastly unfair and humans can never correct this because we are all flawed.

I am sorry for what your mother did and I can understand your viewpoints on this topic just based on that. I won't be able to relate to your own personal experiences but I can understand the pain and wanting to make sure people like you don't feel that pain.
 
Beerus said:
The points I made went over your head. You are younger so I don't expect you to have the same experiences or views. You will see things differently when you get older. The old saying goes if you aren't a liberal when you are young you have no heart, if your aren't conservative when you are older you have no brain. You are viewing it from a self-fulling view points and experiences. Wanting to make sure everyone is happy, represented, loved, accepted and that is good but life will never be that way. Life is vastly unfair and humans can never correct this because we are all flawed.

I am sorry for what your mother did and I can understand your viewpoints on this topic just based on that. I won't be able to relate to your own personal experiences but I can understand the pain and wanting to make sure people like you don't feel that pain.
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Eh more or less, any major points didn't really have a retort. And the ones I did KINDA IG but you'd have to ask an smarter older gay, man idk.
 
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Rapture said:
Eh more or less, any major points didn't really have a retort. And the ones I did KINDA IG but you'd have to ask an smarter older gay, man idk.
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You are still a young guy, I am not holding views like this against you. It is normal and I don't expect you to see where I am coming from, we are from two entirely different generations. Like I said in the second post I made beneath that big one, I am not putting everything on this one group or one topic cause as a whole, I think society is culturally bankrupt and I don't know how things get fixed or if they do. The world is a mess.