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<blockquote data-quote="scoutterSSJ" data-source="post: 4073" data-attributes="member: 256"><p>A 2x gap I think is far too much, though it's true that they could be a bit higher.</p><p><strong>Cell at 4,250,000</strong></p><p><strong>A16 at 4,100,000</strong></p><p></p><p>This would make the difference big enough for the superiority they displayed over Piccolo and A17.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, the Daizenshuu numbers contradict the manga.</p><p>Raditz at 1500, Nappa at just 4000... and the whole Goku vs Freezer fight is also wrong.</p><p>I think that they used the anime as their reference, and they commited two big mistakes:</p><p>1. Goku was using the KKx10 during the whole battle against Freezer. That's why I basically divide by 10 their numbers (and adjust them a bit to make more sense of them).</p><p>2. They disregard the logic of the whole series regarding the power a fighter has during a fight. Goku replenished his strength with the rageboost when he turned SSJ, I'm ok with that, but giving him a 50x mulitplier over base Goku is wrong:</p><p>100% Freezer, uninjured would be at around 40x base Goku. So just going by that, SSJ Goku should have been a 40x over his base state.</p><p>But when Freezer decided to use the 100% of his power, he had already lost a ton of power because of the Genkidama that nearly killed him.</p><p></p><p>The Daizenshuus missed all the subtleties of Toriyama's work when estimating power levels, nearly every one of the ones they tried to guess was wrong on very fundamental aspects.</p><p></p><p>Regards!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scoutterSSJ, post: 4073, member: 256"] A 2x gap I think is far too much, though it's true that they could be a bit higher. [B]Cell at 4,250,000 A16 at 4,100,000[/B] This would make the difference big enough for the superiority they displayed over Piccolo and A17. Yes, the Daizenshuu numbers contradict the manga. Raditz at 1500, Nappa at just 4000... and the whole Goku vs Freezer fight is also wrong. I think that they used the anime as their reference, and they commited two big mistakes: 1. Goku was using the KKx10 during the whole battle against Freezer. That's why I basically divide by 10 their numbers (and adjust them a bit to make more sense of them). 2. They disregard the logic of the whole series regarding the power a fighter has during a fight. Goku replenished his strength with the rageboost when he turned SSJ, I'm ok with that, but giving him a 50x mulitplier over base Goku is wrong: 100% Freezer, uninjured would be at around 40x base Goku. So just going by that, SSJ Goku should have been a 40x over his base state. But when Freezer decided to use the 100% of his power, he had already lost a ton of power because of the Genkidama that nearly killed him. The Daizenshuus missed all the subtleties of Toriyama's work when estimating power levels, nearly every one of the ones they tried to guess was wrong on very fundamental aspects. Regards! [/QUOTE]
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