Bit of a housing rant

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So I am by no means a real estate expert but it seems rather fishy that housing prices shot up a lot in the last few years and the normal available housing rates are around 4 million nationwide, but they are only just over a million. I was doing a bit of digging. Roughly every 13 years or so, we see a house market bubble pop. The last one happened in 2008, exactly 13 years ago. Meanwhile, there is an increase in telling people to buy up houses and land right now. I see stories of China buying this and that black bank or whatever buying that. Almost as if to get people to panic buy.

Did a little more searching around and come to find out the best time to sell is right before a bubble bursts and the WORST time to buy is right before it because banks are handing out high-interest rates and piss poor contracts to just about anyone who wants to buy a house. Once the bubble pops, house and property value is cut in half. I remember in 2008 when this happened to the house I grew up in. A house down the street that was for sale at the time for 225k sold for 100k after it popped.

Come to find out this is a cycle brought to you by the federal reserve. What a bunch of horseshit.
 

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Man... Stories like this really makes me question if I'll ever truly live independently due to my Autism.
 

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I for one can't wait for the bubble to pop this year or the next because I'll be aiming to buy property in 2023. I remember when it burst in 2008 and I could have gotten a 2/2 condo facing the ocean in Miami for less than 200k. Now that property is valued at probably 750k. Not going to make that mistake twice!
 
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Yeah, the 2008 bubble pop saw prices for homes drop from $200-300k here to about $95 - 150k for your typical house. Would've been a great time to invest, get a fixer-upper or two and flip or lease them. Granted, those were peoples' houses that they lost because of the market collapse, so...two sides to it all.
 

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Yeah, the 2008 bubble pop saw prices for homes drop from $200-300k here to about $95 - 150k for your typical house. Would've been a great time to invest, get a fixer-upper or two and flip or lease them. Granted, those were peoples' houses that they lost because of the market collapse, so...two sides to it all.
I think the bubble pop helps more people than it hurts. It is a shame there has to be this kind of cycle to allow people who otherwise couldn't buy a home to be able to afford one.
 
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I think the bubble pop helps more people than it hurts. It is a shame there has to be this kind of cycle to allow people who otherwise couldn't buy a home to be able to afford one.
You just need to be a smart buyer and not get into anything you can't afford. Especially if you decide, and I don't know why, to go with an adjustable rate mortgage. The bank wants it's money one way or another and it will recoup loses off you if need be.
 
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You just need to be a smart buyer and not get into anything you can't afford. Especially if you decide, and I don't know why, to go with an adjustable rate mortgage. The bank wants it's money one way or another and it will recoup loses off you if need be.
Yeah, that is the thing too... Banks will often give people loans they know they will struggle with. If you want to be realistic and not struggle at all, you add two zeros to two weeks pay and that is the max you can afford in most cases. So like if you make $2,000 every two weeks, you can afford a 200k house without struggling. There is wiggle room of course depending on kids, pets, and other expenses but for most people, that is the reality. A lot of people will be making 2k a month and getting a mortgage for a 220k house.
 

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Then you have to consider down payments and closing costs as well. Like if you want to get something over your budget, you best have 20% or more saved to put down on it.
 
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