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<blockquote data-quote="Beerus" data-source="post: 54891" data-attributes="member: 1"><p>The wage gap does not exist. That is based on a general pull of all income from both sides ignoring that men often take more uncomfortable, higher paying roles that require relocation and risk while women do not and I can't blame them.</p><p></p><p>More women than ever before are in leadership roles. More woman graduate college than men and more women enroll too.</p><p></p><p>The prioritizing appearance thing is a woman vs woman problem. Most women enjoy make-up, hair stuff, fashion, etc. - I for one don't care about any of that and focus more on health. This is not an issue that men have with women, it is an issue of women taking issue with other women. Most men would prefer if women wore less make-up if any at all, stop using filters, and focused more on health which creates natural beauty... Women are the ones that do not want that. And that is their choice to make.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Abortions are not healthcare. Abortions are the legalization of ending human life based on inconvenience and should not come at the expense of other people. I am 100% against it but I am not on the side if outlawing it because I know what issues that can cause and I know there are better approaches to reducing the need for it such as free healthcare for pregnant women and free healthcare for infants, toddlers, and young children. Women should not have to go into debt to have a baby. And there should be tax cuts for women who do have children in order to better support them. Most abortions happen because women feel helpless. Women should not be made to feel helpless when they become pregnant. That is a problem and I can agree with that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A lot of companies offer to pay for abortions such as Amazon because they want their women to keep working. The powers at the top also want population reduction. The want capable workers, not "feeders" as they call them. Those are people that can't or won't work. Because they want population reduction they realize that they need to keep women working their entire lives like most men do. But this will not counteract the crushing blow the economy will take in the future when we don't have enough younger people to maintain this system. They are aware of that and the life we know now in America is on the chopping block. If you want to look more into that, just read what the WEF is wanting and planning for.</p><p></p><p>As I said, women have the option to have kids or not, that is a choice they are able to have in America. By choosing not to, you are right our work force is lowered and would end in the same result if a sudden influx of women decided to stop working - but one would be immediate and be solved in a matter of years, the other would require decades to fix. We have less people able to work and when women have more babies, we have more workers. Work is needed for the modern world to continue. Every job has importance and often relies on another job. Say 50% of women are no longer able to or want to have children and the other ones that do opt to only have one child. When these children grow up, they will have to cover the costs of elderly which can't work... So more of their income will be taken away or they will need to start letting people with health problems at older ages die. It is an economic balancing act that most people don't understand. If we want to keep this modern life, it is essential that we have people willing to work for it.</p><p></p><p>And it may suck to hear this for some people, but having nice things like affordable technology and easy access to food requires someone else's labor. The less labor we have, the less options and the higher the prices will go. It is basic economics.</p><p></p><p>---------------------------</p><p></p><p>( I had this typed up before replying to your stuff )</p><p></p><p>My biggest issue with modern feminism is that it allowed women to be complete degenerates that lack any sense of accepting responsibility.</p><p></p><p>This is not something "feminism" advocates for but is a result of. You can ask men (and women) from any other country and they will tell you, it is almost impossible to date or even marry an American woman today because the majority have taken on the role of wanting to be in control of everything, they have become too masculine and not in a good way. This is not just feminists, this is women as a whole. Women that don't even call themselves feminists. A lot of them would consider themselves "conservative" too.</p><p></p><p>Women have come so full circle here in that they are now monetizing their bodies for money and feel it is empowering and love it but they are giving toxic men what they want... easy access. If women want this lifestyle and it makes them happy, I am not going to stop them but I think it is a great disservice to women to not be honest about the repercussions of these choices like with anything else. Telling all women motherhood is amazing and great without being honest about how hard it really is, that is another disservice on the other spectrum.</p><p></p><p>Women have never suffered from more depression and anxiety before than right now in America. It is a massive problem.</p><p></p><p>I am all for women choosing what they want to do with their lives, same for men. I honestly don't care so long as they are not hurting anyone or breaking laws but the subcultures that took root because of feminism have been nothing but destructive. This happens for most activist groups. They start out good and do good but become destructive. Just look at PETA as another example.</p><p></p><p>America as a whole is going through cultural and moral decay. I am not going to point at feminism for the blame of that but like many other things, it was a sub-cursor that led to bigger problems.</p><p></p><p>I don't know what can fix any of this anymore. Just hope for the best and prepare for the worst.</p><p></p><p>I will never be a feminist though nor agree with this group on most things and that is fine. I have my own life to live and worry about. More power to them for fighting for whatever.</p><p></p><p>I am tapping out on the topic for now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beerus, post: 54891, member: 1"] The wage gap does not exist. That is based on a general pull of all income from both sides ignoring that men often take more uncomfortable, higher paying roles that require relocation and risk while women do not and I can't blame them. More women than ever before are in leadership roles. More woman graduate college than men and more women enroll too. The prioritizing appearance thing is a woman vs woman problem. Most women enjoy make-up, hair stuff, fashion, etc. - I for one don't care about any of that and focus more on health. This is not an issue that men have with women, it is an issue of women taking issue with other women. Most men would prefer if women wore less make-up if any at all, stop using filters, and focused more on health which creates natural beauty... Women are the ones that do not want that. And that is their choice to make. Abortions are not healthcare. Abortions are the legalization of ending human life based on inconvenience and should not come at the expense of other people. I am 100% against it but I am not on the side if outlawing it because I know what issues that can cause and I know there are better approaches to reducing the need for it such as free healthcare for pregnant women and free healthcare for infants, toddlers, and young children. Women should not have to go into debt to have a baby. And there should be tax cuts for women who do have children in order to better support them. Most abortions happen because women feel helpless. Women should not be made to feel helpless when they become pregnant. That is a problem and I can agree with that. A lot of companies offer to pay for abortions such as Amazon because they want their women to keep working. The powers at the top also want population reduction. The want capable workers, not "feeders" as they call them. Those are people that can't or won't work. Because they want population reduction they realize that they need to keep women working their entire lives like most men do. But this will not counteract the crushing blow the economy will take in the future when we don't have enough younger people to maintain this system. They are aware of that and the life we know now in America is on the chopping block. If you want to look more into that, just read what the WEF is wanting and planning for. As I said, women have the option to have kids or not, that is a choice they are able to have in America. By choosing not to, you are right our work force is lowered and would end in the same result if a sudden influx of women decided to stop working - but one would be immediate and be solved in a matter of years, the other would require decades to fix. We have less people able to work and when women have more babies, we have more workers. Work is needed for the modern world to continue. Every job has importance and often relies on another job. Say 50% of women are no longer able to or want to have children and the other ones that do opt to only have one child. When these children grow up, they will have to cover the costs of elderly which can't work... So more of their income will be taken away or they will need to start letting people with health problems at older ages die. It is an economic balancing act that most people don't understand. If we want to keep this modern life, it is essential that we have people willing to work for it. And it may suck to hear this for some people, but having nice things like affordable technology and easy access to food requires someone else's labor. The less labor we have, the less options and the higher the prices will go. It is basic economics. --------------------------- ( I had this typed up before replying to your stuff ) My biggest issue with modern feminism is that it allowed women to be complete degenerates that lack any sense of accepting responsibility. This is not something "feminism" advocates for but is a result of. You can ask men (and women) from any other country and they will tell you, it is almost impossible to date or even marry an American woman today because the majority have taken on the role of wanting to be in control of everything, they have become too masculine and not in a good way. This is not just feminists, this is women as a whole. Women that don't even call themselves feminists. A lot of them would consider themselves "conservative" too. Women have come so full circle here in that they are now monetizing their bodies for money and feel it is empowering and love it but they are giving toxic men what they want... easy access. If women want this lifestyle and it makes them happy, I am not going to stop them but I think it is a great disservice to women to not be honest about the repercussions of these choices like with anything else. Telling all women motherhood is amazing and great without being honest about how hard it really is, that is another disservice on the other spectrum. Women have never suffered from more depression and anxiety before than right now in America. It is a massive problem. I am all for women choosing what they want to do with their lives, same for men. I honestly don't care so long as they are not hurting anyone or breaking laws but the subcultures that took root because of feminism have been nothing but destructive. This happens for most activist groups. They start out good and do good but become destructive. Just look at PETA as another example. America as a whole is going through cultural and moral decay. I am not going to point at feminism for the blame of that but like many other things, it was a sub-cursor that led to bigger problems. I don't know what can fix any of this anymore. Just hope for the best and prepare for the worst. I will never be a feminist though nor agree with this group on most things and that is fine. I have my own life to live and worry about. More power to them for fighting for whatever. I am tapping out on the topic for now. [/QUOTE]
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