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<blockquote data-quote="ahill1" data-source="post: 54895" data-attributes="member: 246"><p>[USER=1]@Beerus[/USER] </p><p></p><p>No, the wage gap isn't a myth, is a well documented issue in many countries including the US. It's documented by many sources, including governmental organizations and independent research institutions as well as data from the U.S Bureau of Labor Statistics... Interruption in career due to caregiving is one of the reasons for the lower paying wage, and as you defend children for future economics well being, it should come without a saying that paying less due to time off in care giving will only take their will away of having children, so the structure and way women are faced is a problem, far from feminism which actually battles against that. </p><p></p><p>Also, you need to consider the wage gap isn't uniform among all demographics of women. Transgenders, women with disabilities and women of color -- the issue is more prevalent, which just means further discrimination for being women and in demographics devalued by society.</p><p></p><p>"The American Association of University Women (AAUW) regularly publishes research reports on the gender pay gap, considering intersectionality as a factor. Their report titled "The Simple Truth about the Gender Pay Gap" (2020) analyzes wage disparities for women of different racial and ethnic backgrounds in the United States. The report highlights how the pay gap varies significantly among women from different racial and ethnic groups, showing wider disparities for women of color compared to white women."</p><p></p><p>AAUW - Research -- you can see it in their website. </p><p></p><p></p><p>As for abortions being not healthcare, this isn't true. Abortions from a medical standpoint is considered part of healthcare procedures, implementing procedures that can avoid risk for pregnant women in certain conditions. In cases in which pregnancies bring a danger to their well being, abortion in the safest way possible is seen a way to avoid further complications. </p><p></p><p>Whether it's ethical or moral, many countries already recognize their rights to take decision over their own bodies when it comes up to their well being. </p><p></p><p>There's also the underlying issue of abortion with their financial burden and lack of support that permeates lots of women in poverty. Creating supportive environments through policies that offer free healthcare for pregnant women, infants, toddlers, and young children, as well as providing financial support through tax cuts, can indeed contribute to reducing the perceived need for abortions yeah. This would be addressing the root causes. Also, ensuring access to comprehensive sex education, contraception, and healthcare services enables individuals to make decisions aligned with their circumstances and beliefs.</p><p></p><p>While the moral debate exists, it's essential to consider the healthcare part and individual-autonomy in decision making. There was a case of a teen who was abused and had a child fruit from abuse, which was a risk to her based on her age... Abortion was the way to put her in safety, yet religious conservstive groups made a huge noise trying to contest that, a so glarring and terrifying issue that due to ideology, blocked people's eyes to what was the most sane thing to do in a situation as horrible as that one. </p><p></p><p>And that's not a reason at all to blame a culture of not wanting children. If anything, the last part of your paragraph highlights an issue with companies that pay women less taking away their incentive to have kids. And feminists have nothing to do with that as they aren't telling women not to have children, at least it's not the core of modern feminism, what they contest is precisely the thought that a women's role is bear a children and live in support of the family as house wives. It's totally possible for them to work and have children if they want to if they receive the right and fair support during their pregnancy period.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ahill1, post: 54895, member: 246"] [USER=1]@Beerus[/USER] No, the wage gap isn't a myth, is a well documented issue in many countries including the US. It's documented by many sources, including governmental organizations and independent research institutions as well as data from the U.S Bureau of Labor Statistics... Interruption in career due to caregiving is one of the reasons for the lower paying wage, and as you defend children for future economics well being, it should come without a saying that paying less due to time off in care giving will only take their will away of having children, so the structure and way women are faced is a problem, far from feminism which actually battles against that. Also, you need to consider the wage gap isn't uniform among all demographics of women. Transgenders, women with disabilities and women of color -- the issue is more prevalent, which just means further discrimination for being women and in demographics devalued by society. "The American Association of University Women (AAUW) regularly publishes research reports on the gender pay gap, considering intersectionality as a factor. Their report titled "The Simple Truth about the Gender Pay Gap" (2020) analyzes wage disparities for women of different racial and ethnic backgrounds in the United States. The report highlights how the pay gap varies significantly among women from different racial and ethnic groups, showing wider disparities for women of color compared to white women." AAUW - Research -- you can see it in their website. As for abortions being not healthcare, this isn't true. Abortions from a medical standpoint is considered part of healthcare procedures, implementing procedures that can avoid risk for pregnant women in certain conditions. In cases in which pregnancies bring a danger to their well being, abortion in the safest way possible is seen a way to avoid further complications. Whether it's ethical or moral, many countries already recognize their rights to take decision over their own bodies when it comes up to their well being. There's also the underlying issue of abortion with their financial burden and lack of support that permeates lots of women in poverty. Creating supportive environments through policies that offer free healthcare for pregnant women, infants, toddlers, and young children, as well as providing financial support through tax cuts, can indeed contribute to reducing the perceived need for abortions yeah. This would be addressing the root causes. Also, ensuring access to comprehensive sex education, contraception, and healthcare services enables individuals to make decisions aligned with their circumstances and beliefs. While the moral debate exists, it's essential to consider the healthcare part and individual-autonomy in decision making. There was a case of a teen who was abused and had a child fruit from abuse, which was a risk to her based on her age... Abortion was the way to put her in safety, yet religious conservstive groups made a huge noise trying to contest that, a so glarring and terrifying issue that due to ideology, blocked people's eyes to what was the most sane thing to do in a situation as horrible as that one. And that's not a reason at all to blame a culture of not wanting children. If anything, the last part of your paragraph highlights an issue with companies that pay women less taking away their incentive to have kids. And feminists have nothing to do with that as they aren't telling women not to have children, at least it's not the core of modern feminism, what they contest is precisely the thought that a women's role is bear a children and live in support of the family as house wives. It's totally possible for them to work and have children if they want to if they receive the right and fair support during their pregnancy period. [/QUOTE]
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