You are oldI did not know it was that old
I feel old...
General Politics Thread
- Thread starter Yoshi
- Start date
Ay ay ay. None of that talk around these parts. Bush was trash, fuck him.
We knew...9/11 was a... Japanese job?
We know... it was an inside job.
Japanese, though? Nah just a scary coincidence.
I want to make a meme with wii remotes but I won't do it.
It should have been a state issue to begin with but Obama forced it on states. There are still more states that would support it than don't but forcing stuff like this will always lead to problems which is unfortunate.
That still would leave people in some states not able to get married, and that could be messy as well. As long as two people are consenting adults, they deserve to get married if they so choose. I don't think you're saying other wise really, you just think it's a state issue, so I think that's the only area we might differ in. Its just stuff like this, I don't trust the states to do the right thing. Surely a lot of them in the south.
As I said when I bought this up a few weeks ago, I do think that churches shouldn't be FORCED to do it, because they have in the past turned down straight couples as well for different reasons. But it should remain legal across the Nation, as there should be enough people in every state who would be willing to officiate the wedding.
I think it should have been done differently. The government was ready to give same sex couples EVERYTHING they wanted in terms of legality, protection, etc. but it was under the term civil union. Most gay couples were on board until the leftist profiteers got upset. That is what Obama should have pushed. When you call it marriage, it puts a lot of people off. Like to me, marriage will always be a man, a woman, and God. It is a trinity. There are plenty of straight marriages I wouldn't consider "real" marriages. So this doesn't bother me at all when it was legalized but for the sake people, states, religions, etc. that would and did get offended, it should have been approached differently in legislation. That is all I am saying. I don't think people should lose their marriage certificates and legal benefits if things get overturned. That is wrong.
see to me, and I say this as someone who believes in God, and all that, but we shouldn’t let religion dictate our laws. Which is why I’m fine with a compromise of not forcing someone to perform the ceremony. But like say I went and got myself certified to perform weddings, I would perform weddings for anyone, because to me love is love. But if say you for example could, and didn’t want to for anyone for any reason, I believe that you should have that right.
Now this next part is no shot at you, I want that to be clear before I say it. But it’s kind of funny to me the party that calls people snowflakes, is the party who gets upset and offended by two men or two women wanting to get married. To me that’s more of a snowflake, than people getting upset at having their rights taken away.
Now we’re free to disagree, like I said the reason I worry about this is I know a lot of people, a lot of good people this will screw over.
Well yeah, I am not offended by it because my beliefs are my own. Like if they just made it all blanket civil unions unless performed in a church, most people would be happy I think but who knows. I don't get into the weeds of this because it is not something I am convicted over.
Like I said, if it is revered in certain states, the people already married shouldn't lose that.
Yeah I figured that you wasn’t offended, I know some people who were back when it was first legalized. Like that’s how I think people should be, you believe and do what you believe, and let others do the same, as long as everyone is a legal consenting adult.
Sadly some of my friends aren’t married yet, and can’t exactly afford to right now.
The problem is it's followed down the slippery slope (which is only ever a fallacy, and never ever happens):
- Christian businesses harrassed over refusing to honour same-sex weddings (in the same way they're consistent about any other thing antithetical to their faith)
- the notion that Christian ministers should be forced to officiate same-sex weddings or lose their license
- the continual decline of what/is isn't permissable and pushing that onto our kids
- Christian businesses harrassed over refusing to honour same-sex weddings (in the same way they're consistent about any other thing antithetical to their faith)
- the notion that Christian ministers should be forced to officiate same-sex weddings or lose their license
- the continual decline of what/is isn't permissable and pushing that onto our kids