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<blockquote data-quote="Blockinlick" data-source="post: 3788" data-attributes="member: 234"><p>I put Raditz at 1,500 myself, but Daiz merely confirmed it. I've always operated on the assumption that a direct hit of equal or greater power = death. That said, for Raditz to survive Gohan's attack and continue to outmatch Piccolo and Goku, he must have been higher than 1,307. But you also can't make it much higher than 1,500, because Vegeta compared the Saibamen to Raditz.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Math/Multiplier wise, yeah... but I take issue with the fact that a discrepancy like that in other fights meant easy victory. For instance, 24k Vegeta destroyed 18k Cui with almost no effort. So how is it that 24k Goku, even if only temporarily powered, can't seem to even get the upper hand on Vegeta, let alone easily defeat him?</p><p></p><p>Sometimes you have to defy the multipliers and adjust for what makes more sense. What makes more sense to me is that even though Goku calls it a 3x, he's not getting the full 3x out of it for whatever reason.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I debated on lowering them similarly. I did think that the gap between Vegeta and Transformed Zarbon was a bit small for how badly Vegeta lost. So these numbers do help that make more sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't put much thought into that one. Now that you got me remembering, Krillin and Gohan were outclassing him. However, you do have to factor in that it's 2v1.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blockinlick, post: 3788, member: 234"] I put Raditz at 1,500 myself, but Daiz merely confirmed it. I've always operated on the assumption that a direct hit of equal or greater power = death. That said, for Raditz to survive Gohan's attack and continue to outmatch Piccolo and Goku, he must have been higher than 1,307. But you also can't make it much higher than 1,500, because Vegeta compared the Saibamen to Raditz. Math/Multiplier wise, yeah... but I take issue with the fact that a discrepancy like that in other fights meant easy victory. For instance, 24k Vegeta destroyed 18k Cui with almost no effort. So how is it that 24k Goku, even if only temporarily powered, can't seem to even get the upper hand on Vegeta, let alone easily defeat him? Sometimes you have to defy the multipliers and adjust for what makes more sense. What makes more sense to me is that even though Goku calls it a 3x, he's not getting the full 3x out of it for whatever reason. I debated on lowering them similarly. I did think that the gap between Vegeta and Transformed Zarbon was a bit small for how badly Vegeta lost. So these numbers do help that make more sense. I didn't put much thought into that one. Now that you got me remembering, Krillin and Gohan were outclassing him. However, you do have to factor in that it's 2v1. [/QUOTE]
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