My power level list

Blockinlick

Ultra Pinkstink
Super Saiyan 2
366
308
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This list is meant to be very conservative. A goal of mine here is keep these numbers as low as possible. It has helped me in debates about power levels (Particularly Krillin being a planet buster) to point to, not only the inflated power lists, but my most conservative one as well.

In other words, you could see this list as a "Bare minimum power level" list.
One thing I factored in here that a lot of lists don't is that power levels should drop as fighters become damaged, use ki, and fight for an extended period of time.
Most notably, this made the numbers for Frieza and SSJ Goku MUCH lower than other lists put them, setting a precedent for the numbers in the following arcs to be much more grounded.

Because of that, howevet, some of my numbers start higher than usual and END lower than usual. For instance, I start Raditz at 1500 when most lists put him at 1,200, but this makes sense when you consider the damage, energy used, and stamina drain he takes throughout his fights.

I wanted to go into Super, but I ran into difficulty gauging power with its scaling inconsistencies.

Anyways, here it is:

* denotes an actual scouter reading.

---Saiyan Saga---

-Raditz Arc

Farmer with a Shotgun: 5*

Roshi: 139*
Yamcha: 177*
Krillin: 206*
Tien: 250*
Piccolo: 408*
Goku: 416*
Gohan: 710*
Raditz: 1,500

-King Yemma's Fruit
Goku: 800
-Bubbles Training
Goku: 2,000
-Gregory Training
Goku: 3,500
-King Kai Training
Goku: 5,000

-Planet Vegeta 100 Years Ago
Scarface: 8,000
Shorty: 3,000

-Saiyan Arc

Saibamen: 1,100 each
Chiaotzu: 700
Gohan: 981*
Yamcha: 1,000
Tien: 1,000
Krillin: 1,083*
Piccolo: 1,220*
Nappa: 6,000

-After extensive fighting:
Nappa: 5,500
-After Chiaotzu Explosion
Nappa: 5,000
-After more extensive fighting
Nappa: 4,500

Goku: 5,000+*
-After Kaioken x4
Goku: 21,000+*

Vegeta: 18,000

-After extensive fighting
Goku: 2,500 / 10,000
Vegeta: 12,000

-After Beam Struggle
Goku: 700
Vegeta: 4,000

-After Oozaru
Oozaru Vegeta: 40,000

-After being crushed by Vegeta
Goku: <50

-The Spirit Bomb
Spirit Bomb: 12,000

-After losing Spirit Bomb
Spirit Bomb: 3,500

-After Krillin lands Spirit Bomb.
Vegeta: 500

After Gohan Transforms
Oozaru Gohan: 9,000

After Gohan lands on Vegeta
Vegeta: <50

---Namek Saga---

Gohan: 1,500*
Krillin: 1,500*
Warrior Namekians: 3,000* each
Cui: 18,000
Dodoria: 21,000
Zarbon: 22,000
Vegeta: 24,000*
Beast Zarbon: 30,000
Frieza (Suppressed): 200,000

-Post-Zarbon zenkai
Vegeta: 40,000

Nail: 42,000

-After Guru awakening
Gohan: 10,000
Krillin: 8,000

Guldo: 12,000
Jeice: 40,000
Burter: 40,000
Recoome: 50,000
Captain Ginyu: 120,000

-After extensive fighting
Krillin: 500
Gohan: 2,500
Vegeta: 10,000
Recoome: 35,000

-After Gohan rage-boost
Recoome: 25,000

-After Goku arrives
Goku: 90,000
After Kaioken powerup: 180,000

-After Senzu Bean zenkai's
Gohan: 15,000
Vegeta: 50,000

-After Ginyu Body Changing concludes
Goku: 200
Vegeta: 40,000

-After King Kai training
Chiaotzu: 25,000
Yamcha: 30,000
Tien: 30,000
Piccolo: 40,000

-After resting super-zenkai
Vegeta: 190,000

After extensive fighting
Vegeta: 100,000
Frieza: 110,000 (Of 200,000 - 90,000)

-After fusing with Nail
Piccolo: 400,000

-After powering up
Frieza: 440,000 (Of 530,000 - 90,000)

-After extensive fighting
Frieza: 300,000 (Of 530,000 - 230,000)
Piccolo: 270,000

-After transforming
Frieza: 800,000 (Of 1,030,000 - 230,000)

-After extensive fighting
Krillin: <50
Vegeta: 20,000
Piccolo, 100,000
Frieza: 600,000 (Of 1,030,000 - 430,000)

-During/after rageboost
Gohan: 700,000
Frieza: 400,000 (Of 1,030,000 - 630,000)

-After Dende healing & super-zenkai
Gohan: 70,000
Krillin: 8,000
Piccolo: 400,000

-After super-zenkai (Dende healing)
Vegeta: 700,000

-After transforming
Frieza: 900,000 (Of 1,530,000 - 630,000)

-After extensive fighting
Piccolo: 300,000
Vegeta: 500,000
Frieza: 700,000 (Of 1,330,000 - 830,000)

-During/after rageboost
Gohan: 800,000
Frieza: 600,000 (Of 1,330,000 - 930,000)

-After transforming
Frieza: 2,070,000 (1%) (Of 3.3m - 930,000) (329.07m at 100%)

-After super-zenkai
Goku: 600,000 / 2.4m

-After extensive fighting
Dende: 0
Vegeta: 5
Krillin: 8,000
Gohan: 75,000
Piccolo: 300,000
Frieza: 2,000,000 (Of 3.3m - 1m)
(329m at 100%)


-Goku arrives
Goku: 600,000 / 2.4m

-After extensive fighting
Goku: 500,000 / 2m
Frieza: 1.6m (1%) (Of 3.3m - 1.4m)
(328.6 at 100%)

-After Frieza powers up to 50%
Frieza: 164.3m (Of 330m - 1.4m)

-After extensive fighting
Goku: 250,000 / 1m
Frieza: 164.0m (Of 330m - 1.7m)
Spirit Bomb: 350m

-After Spirit Bomb & Frieza attacks
Goku: 130,000 / 520,000
Frieza: 120,000 (-322,300,000 from Spirit Bomb)

-After SSJ transformation
Goku: 6.5m (130,000 x 50)

-After Frieza powers up to 100%
Frieza: 6m

-After extensive fighting
Goku: 2m
Frieza: 1.4m

"You're not even a challenge to me anymore"

-Current maximums
Goku: 600,000 / 30m SSJ
Frieza: 330m

---Android Saga---

At this point, I have to explain why my numbers are going to seem quite low. See, my numbers for this saga started out a bit higher, but I ran into a dilemma that made me realize that they needed to come down... a lot.

That is that I refuse to believe that Piccolo made such extreme gains enough to do so well against Android 20. That said, the power of Androids 19 & 20 needed minimized to the furthest degree that could make sense.

I did by making some pretty serious assumptions about judgements made by Piccolo & Vegeta. More specifically, I need to assume that Piccolo and Vegeta don't have a very accurate recollection of Goku's power level when he returned vs when he fought Android 19. Basically, Goku's power level must have been WAY down from the virus and Piccolo didn't realize it.

I also decided that I shouldn't take the Frieza Force scientists claim that Frieza was going to be stronger than before. In fact, I like to believe that he was quite a bit weaker.

I know that contradicting direct statements from characters is a bit blasphemous, I think it's more silly to work around Piccolo gaining to 400 million from 400,000 in just under two years.

This method takes that down to 100 million, but I have one more assumption to make that make sense. That is that he did learn Kaioken, but probably wasn't very good at it, so he didn't plan on ever using it until Android 20 made him want to risk it all. So that mixed with a rage boost got him to the 100 million.

That may be venturing into head-canon, but I'm merely trying to make it make sense and Piccolo being 100x or even 25x stronger than base Vegeta makes the least sense of all.

-After Super-zenkai
Goku: 3m Base / 150m SSJ

-After Metamori training
Goku: 7m Base / 350m SSJ

-After bionic upgrades
Frieza: 200m
King Cold: 160m

-Trunks arrives
Trunks: 5m Base / 250m SSJ

-After excessive gravity training
Vegeta: 3m

-After obtaining SSJ
Vegeta: 4m / 200m SSJ

-Enter Android 19 & 20
Android 19: 100m
Android 20: 100m
Stricken Goku: 3m Base / 150m SSJ

-After extensive fighting
Android 19: 70m
Goku: 120m

-After absorbing Kamehameha
Android 19: 130m
Goku: 60m

-After extensive fighting
Android 19: 120m
Goku: 10m

-Enter Vegeta
4m / 200m SSJ

-After Android 19 defeat
Vegeta: 50m
Android 20: 100m

-After multiple energy absorbtions
Android 20: 140m
Enraged Kaioken x10 Piccolo: 100m
Vegeta: 180m

-After fighting (20 loses an arm)
Android 20: 60m

-Enter Androids 17 & 18 & 16
Android 18: 400m
Android 17: 420m
Android 16: 750m

-After fusing with Kami
Piccolo: 400m

-Piccolo encounters Imperfect Cell
Imperfect Cell: 380m

-After losing an arm
Piccolo: 380m
Imperfect Cell: 360m

-After fighting 17
Piccolo: 320m
Android 17: 340m

-Enter Cell
Imperfect Cell: 700m

-After fighting Android 16
Imperfect Cell: 650m
Android 16: 700m

-After absorbing 18
Semi-Perfect Cell: 1.05b

-After HTC Training
Vegeta: 18m Base / 900m SSJ / 1.8b SV
Trunks: 17m Base /850m SSJ / 4.5b ASSJ

-After prolonged fighting
Vegeta: 900m SSJ
Semi-Perfect Cell: 700m

-After becoming perfect
Perfect Cell: 6b

-After extensive fighting
Vegeta: 300m
Perfect Cell: 5.3b

-After Final Flash & Regenerating
Vegeta: 10m
Perfect Cell: 4b

-After extensive fighting
Trunks: 10m Base / 500m SSJ / 1.5b ASSJ
Perfect Cell: 4b

-After HTC training
Mr. Satan: 25
Goku: 60m Base / 3b SSJ
Gohan: 54m Base / 2.7b SSJ

Trunks: 22m Base / 1.1b
Vegeta: 25m Base / 1.2b

-Goku: "I give up"
Goku: 1b
Perfect Cell: 5b

-Gohan vs Perfect Cell
Gohan: 2.7b
Perfect Cell: 6b

-After extensive fighting
Gohan: 1.5b
Perfect Cell: 5.5b
Cell Jr's: 900m each

-After SSJ2 Enraged
Enraged Gohan: 150m / 7.5b SSJ / 30b

-After beating on Cell awhile
Gohan: 30b
Perfect Cell: 500m

-After regurgitating 18
Semi-Perfect Cell: 100m

-After self-destruct & return
SPC: 20b

-After being hit by blast
Gohan: 20b

---Buu Saga---

One big thing I'm going to do in this saga is assume that the peak saiyan base is 60 million. Why? Well, it helps Goku's statements about relucting to back into the HTC. Goku knew his mortal body had hit its absolute limit. So while that limit may get raised from time to time for special gains, the general assumption will be that that is the normal limit obtained through training. From this point on, I believe their focus was maintaining that condition, pushing their transformation limits, and perfecting their fighting techniques.

This also helps another aspect make PERFECT sense: Vegeta's extreme disappointment in Gohan's power. Because well, Vegeta doesn't really understand that Gohan also got a huge rage-boost in power on top of his SSJ2 transformation. That said, Vegeta still aspires for that 30 billion peak that Gohan achieved. He's not just frustrated that Gohan has gotten weaker and struggling against Dabura, but also the realization that Gohan is no longer a suitable rival to aspire him to push himself further.

Also, in order for Vegeta to be impressed by Goku vs Yakon, Goku needs to have surpassed this 60 million limit by training with an overworld body.

Then you have Goku complimenting Majin Vegeta during their fight. It makes no sense for Goku to give this compliment the way he did with the wording he used if it was based on power gains, since the power gain Vegeta had would easily be attributed to Bobbidi's spell. No, Goku was complimenting Vegeta's gains in skill, technique, ki control, etc. I think that further supports that post-Cell training was technique & skill focused, rather than power gain focused.

Lastly, just like the issue of Piccolo vs Android 20, I have to downplay one particular scene to make sense of the power scaling around Gotenks. That scene is base Gotenks vs Fat Buu. If I put base Gotenks at any comparable level to Buu and give him the x800 SSJ3 multiplier, that puts him in the trillions, which then bloats the other numbers for Mystic Gohan & Super Buu equally. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to let this scene suggest that Super Buu is 250x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. I'd rather believe that this scene is far less indicative than meets the eye and assume that Buu was suppressing most of his power.

I am also going to handle the "Trunks lands a punch on Vegeta" and "Android 18 has a hard time against Trunks" scenes the same way. After all, Goten was absolutely blown away by SSJ Gohan's power. This means that, at most, Trunks could be half as strong as Gohan and I'm not even going to give him a fraction of that much. I've decided to make the fusion muliplier x10 and work it out from there.

-The WMAT
Videl: 30
Spopovich: 90
Kabito: 1m
Goten: 5m/ 250m
Trunks: 6m / 300m
Piccolo: 9m
Supreme Kai: 20m
Gohan: 15m Base / 750m SSJ / 3b
Vegeta: 60m / 3b SSJ / 12B SSJ2
Goku: 80m / 4b SSJ / 16b SSJ

-Babidi's Spaceship
Pui Pui: 120,000
Yakon: 1b
Dabura: 5b

-After extensive fighting
Dabura: 4b
Gohan: 2b

-After Majin spell
Majin Vegeta: 80m / 4b SSJ / 16b

-Goku vs Majin Vegeta entire fight
Goku: 65m / 3.2b SSJ / 13b
Vegeta: 65m / 3.2b SSJ / 13b

-Enter Majin Buu
Fat Buu: 30b
Goku: 64b SSJ3
Gotenks: 100m

-Enter Evil Buu
Super Buu: 60b

-After HTC
Gotenks: 100m Base / 5b / 20b / 80b SSJ3

-After extensive fighting
Super Buu: 60b
Gotenks: 70b

-After Elder Kai Ritual
Gohan: 150b

-After absorbing Gotenks
Super Buu: 130b

-After extensive fighting
Super Buu: 100b
Gohan: 130b

-After Gotenks fusion runs out
Super Buu: 30b

-After absorbing Gohan
Super Buu: 160b

-Goku & Vegeta Potara fuse
Vegito: 6b Base / 300b SSJ

-Buu is gutted
Kid Buu: 60b
Vegeta: 12B SSJ2
Goku: 64b SSJ3
Fat Buu: 20b

-After extensive fighting
Vegeta: <50
Fat Buu: <50m
Kid Buu: 50b
Goku: 20m
Spirit Bomb: 200b

All relevant characters by the end of the Buu Saga (Not 'End of Z')

Yamcha: 100,000
Tien: 110,000
Krillin: 120,000
Goten: 5m / 50m
Trunks: 6m / 60m
Android 18: 400m
Android 17: 600m
Piccolo: 600m
Vegeta: 60m / 12b SSJ2
Goku: 80m / 64b SSJ3
Gohan: 150b
 
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Yoshi

Elite Saiyan Warrior
Super Saiyan God
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If you want Raditz stronger than the Makankosappo, he should be 1,350 at most.
 

Blockinlick

Ultra Pinkstink
Super Saiyan 2
366
308
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If you want Raditz stronger than the Makankosappo, he should be 1,350 at most.
One thing I factored in here that a lot of lists don't is that power levels should drop as fighters become damaged, use ki, and fight for an extended period of time.
Most notably, this made the numbers for Frieza and SSJ Goku MUCH lower than other lists put them, setting a precedent for the numbers in the following arcs to be much more grounded.

Because of that, howevet, some of my numbers start higher than usual and END lower than usual. For instance, I start Raditz at 1500 when most lists put him at 1,200, but this makes sense when you consider the damage, energy used, and stamina drain he takes throughout his fights.
 
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