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<blockquote data-quote="India Actual" data-source="post: 7942" data-attributes="member: 80"><p>It all depends on when the officer pulled the trigger. If he aimed that taser and the officer shot him then it's justifiable homicide. If he shot him while he was deploying the taser then it is also justifiable homicide. If the officer pulled the trigger on him after the taser deployed then it's not a good shoot because there was no imminent threat.</p><p></p><p>Now let me clear something up for the folks who might have a murky confusion about what taser is and isn't. Yes, it is a weapon. It's a less than lethal device. Not non-lethal. Anything considered a weapon can be lethal. IF Mr. Brooks deployed that taser to good effect on that officer then his body would be immobilized. His sidearm would be ripe for the picking. It also could have just been his intention to tase the officer so he could make a clean get away. What matters is that he intended to use the weapon against the officer. Not necessarily how, how is an after thought. You have to put yourself in the moment, would you as a reasonable person have fear of great bodily harm or death as a peace officer in pursuit of a violent felon? All the other facts were proven by the video. Was he a suspected felon? Yes, because of the DUI. Now compound that with the assault on the officers, the resisting with violence, and the eluding/evasion charges that come with him fleeing a lawful arrest. His level of resistance was violent because he was rolling around with two officers like sex on the beach, seized one of their weapons, and punched one of them in the face. You've sufficiently determined Crime severity, Level of resistance, and Imminence of Threat by him attempting to deploy the taser against the officer, he was a fleeing suspect, but he wasn't simply fleeing because of the threat posed by him attempting to deploy or actually deploying the taser, I don't know if he pulled the trigger or not, I think he did but it wasn't a good deployment. Not 100% on that fact. So like I said earlier, it really comes down to second by second in the course of that incident. Did the officer shoot him before or during the taser deployment while he was a threat? That's the million dollar question. If he did it even a second after then window to use lethal force was closed because he was no longer a threat and assumes the role of a fleeing suspect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="India Actual, post: 7942, member: 80"] It all depends on when the officer pulled the trigger. If he aimed that taser and the officer shot him then it's justifiable homicide. If he shot him while he was deploying the taser then it is also justifiable homicide. If the officer pulled the trigger on him after the taser deployed then it's not a good shoot because there was no imminent threat. Now let me clear something up for the folks who might have a murky confusion about what taser is and isn't. Yes, it is a weapon. It's a less than lethal device. Not non-lethal. Anything considered a weapon can be lethal. IF Mr. Brooks deployed that taser to good effect on that officer then his body would be immobilized. His sidearm would be ripe for the picking. It also could have just been his intention to tase the officer so he could make a clean get away. What matters is that he intended to use the weapon against the officer. Not necessarily how, how is an after thought. You have to put yourself in the moment, would you as a reasonable person have fear of great bodily harm or death as a peace officer in pursuit of a violent felon? All the other facts were proven by the video. Was he a suspected felon? Yes, because of the DUI. Now compound that with the assault on the officers, the resisting with violence, and the eluding/evasion charges that come with him fleeing a lawful arrest. His level of resistance was violent because he was rolling around with two officers like sex on the beach, seized one of their weapons, and punched one of them in the face. You've sufficiently determined Crime severity, Level of resistance, and Imminence of Threat by him attempting to deploy the taser against the officer, he was a fleeing suspect, but he wasn't simply fleeing because of the threat posed by him attempting to deploy or actually deploying the taser, I don't know if he pulled the trigger or not, I think he did but it wasn't a good deployment. Not 100% on that fact. So like I said earlier, it really comes down to second by second in the course of that incident. Did the officer shoot him before or during the taser deployment while he was a threat? That's the million dollar question. If he did it even a second after then window to use lethal force was closed because he was no longer a threat and assumes the role of a fleeing suspect. [/QUOTE]
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