The Goku vs Superman debate

Blockinlick

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For a long time, I just accepted that Screw Attacks' analysis was correct. But the more I think it over, the more I question the things they chose to measure and consider things they chose to ignore.

Firstly, they measured Goku's speed by measuring... animation. That in of itself is hardly an accurate thing to measure, since the size of Snake Way's spikes have no bearing on anything and there's nothing real-world to even compare them to.

They then "adjusted it according to gains Goku made since then" and then applied the standard SSJ multipliers of 50x, 4x, 4x.

Then I'd like to point out how they compared our Earth size to DCU'S Earth size.

But how is that more objective than the statements made in Dragon Ball that fighters were moving faster than the eye can see.

That IS measurable by comparing it to our own eye's limitation, right? The same way that DCU's Earth was assumed to be the same as ours, right?

If you start the base measurement at that point and adjust it using the same aforementioned calculations, I bet you get a speed that is absurdly faster.

Secondly, if I remember correctly, they used a non-canon (Underworld Tournament) scene to gauge Goku's base strength.

On top of that, while Goku himself may not have measurable destructive feats, they chose to ignore any feats of villains that Goku has at least surpassed. Namely Frieza.

Frieza destroyed a planet (Namek).

Now, knowing basic physics, it takes far more force to bust something open with a sharp object than to pull it on a rope. For instance, if I tried to stab a pumpkin as hard as I could with a steel spike, it would take all of my strength to bust it wide open. While it would be easy to wrap a rope around it and pull it with my arms.

That said, Frieza's feat alone surpasses Superman's.

Then factor in all of the gains made Post-Namek and Superman takes a dirt nap from Base End of Z Goku... let alone SSJ or higher.
 

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Superman is an alien similar to Goku being one but unlike DC's universe, DBZ allows different humanoids and species to fly as well as have super human strength.

I think a more fair comparison would be Superman vs Krillin and even then, I think Krillin would beat him in the end. Goku is too OP for US comic book characters. Anime is on a whole other level.
 
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Let's go complete scorched earth on this one. Base Goku would be able to go toe to toe with Superman quite easily. You through in transformation on top of it and ol' Supes is mince meat. Dragon Ball Super level Goku has multi-versal levels of power, it wouldn't be fair to compare him to Superman but more someone on the level of the Anti-Monitor. Super Saiyan God Goku and Beerus almost destroyed space-time through sheer kinetic force itself.
 
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Blockinlick

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Superman is an alien similar to Goku being one but unlike DC's universe, DBZ allows different humanoids and species to fly as well as have super human strength.

I think a more fair comparison would be Superman vs Krillin and even then, I think Krillin would beat him in the end. Goku is too OP for US comic book characters. Anime is on a whole other level.

I'd say the likes of Superman, Hulk, and Thanos are stronger than most anime characters I know. Dragon Ball is the one anime I know that nothing compares to, power wise.

Then there those like Galactus that are clearly stronger than virtually anything.

But I also have a pretty mainstream oldschool taste in anime. Bleach, Scryed, Full Metal Alchemist, & Inuyasha. I did find Cowboy Bepop and Samurai Champloo interesting as a teenager, but I never really got into them.

I have never watched Naruto, because it just looks lame af. lol
I haven't watched One Piece either, because the whole "Fantasy Pirates" things is a really lame premise to me.
 
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Weidly enough the non db (and non obscure) character stronger than goku that i know is and yeah im serious:
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Kirby believe me the deathbattle vid still sucks i mean the clone thing was a retcon and yeah they used anime kirby in the same vein as canon kirby!
 
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