Trans people are going to end up more hated if this continues...
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Sadly, for most it takes a lot of money and work to pull that off. Or you have to start with an already feminine appearance.
Or start young by blocking male puberty, then they basically come out looking like genetic females.
Yeah, but the issue with that is that kids don't know what the hell they want. lol Letting a 10 to 13-year-old decide something like that can be dangerous. Just thinking back to my years, I was not the sharpest tool in the shed.
And now I got a certain song stuck in my head... lol
Not wrong, but there are also some kids that know very young who and what they are, same as non-trans kids, so in those instances therapists will make an exception. Likewise, sometimes if there's doubt they'll still put them on puberty blockers, but not hormone replacement therapy, so they just don't go through their biological puberty, but don't go through the other side, either. Then at 18 if they still feel like they want to transition, then they start hormone therapy, or if they change their mind they can stop the blockers and go through their biological puberty. Not saying it makes sense to let kids make such massive decisions, but there are instances where it's basically a given and so they just let them start hormones at 14 or 15 rather than 18, so they can experience puberty at the age other kids are experiencing puberty. I do agree, though, it's very hard in many cases to say definitively that this is what they want at that age, so no way I'd want them to make such a massive, life altering decision, at such a young age.
SOMEBODY once told me "mum, I don't want my ballsies,
I've grabbed the sharpest tool in the shed."
He was looking kinda' dumb with his penis in his thong,
in the shape of an "l" in his black dress.
...that's cruel, I shouldn't do that. Legitimate trans people deal with enough suffering and abuse, but you put the song in my head and my screwed up brain decided to screw it up even more...at least I hear there'll be a lot of fun people there when I get to hell...
It is a HUGE choice to make that will affect them for life. Very few have any thought of it prior to puberty as well. At least that is what studies suggest. I think maybe going through 2+ years of therapy before this decision is made by the child and the parents is ideal. And I don't think anyone should be put on anything prior to the age of 10. That is just too damn young. If we give children too much power and say in stuff like this, it will end in disaster for themselves and their families. I have heard of children being taken away from their parents for refusing different medical approaches. Something needs to be set to protect the children AND the parents.
While none of this directly affects either of us, I think finding some kind of sane and logical approach is ideal considering there are over 1 million people who identify as trans now in the US and they are apart of our communities. The high suicide rates of trans people is telling us something has to be done too. Maybe make mental health more affordable for these people or something. Give therapists incentive to do it for free like lawyers have pro-bono work. I also think more open and honest talk about sexual abuse needs to be a thing considering over half of them have been reported in case studies to have suffered from sexual abuse as children.
I don't know what approaches or changes will be made but we are all human here and no one deserves to have their life restricted because of someone else's feelings or choices.
Agreed, there is no reason whatsoever to start giving kids anything to stop or start anything prior to the age of 10, that is an insanely young age to start any medical interventions. Clothing and social transitioning is one thing, the actual medical side shouldn't be considered until 18 unless there is clear, definitive and irrefutable evidence that it's what's best for the child. I've heard the same thing about kids being taken away from parents, it's a terrifying thought. I mean, it's not the end of the world to have the kid wait until they're 18 to make their own decisions about this sort of thing. Temporarily blocking puberty is one thing, that can be reversed, but you can't reverse hormone replacement therapy after a certain point (I think it's about 8 or 9 months of continuous hormone replacement therapy that changes become permanent and sterility become irreversible), so no question it needs a great deal of careful and considered contemplation before going through with anything.
Well it may not impact us at the moment, because we ourselves are not trans, there's no telling what the future holds. You've said yourself you'd like kids someday, I know if I can ever find someone, I'd eventually like kids, as well. Whose to say one of them won't be trans? Not being affected by it now does not mean it won't directly or indirectly impact us in the future, so understanding the approaches and concerns of all parties involved, and what sort of solutions could be found that works for everyone is a good thing, most definitely.
You're right, the suicide rate in pre and post-operative trans people is quite high. Some go through it and think it's going to solve everything, but when it doesn't and they still have feelings of depression and unhappiness it can be overwhelming. Still others transition and realize they were wrong to do so, but now they're stuck with what they've done, so they also head down the path of depression and suicide. Then there are the countless who are trans but don't have the money or the ability to transition, or they understand that even with hormone therapy they would still be overly masculine in appearance and so it would be pointless to transition, so they get depressed and...well. It's such a complex and complicated thing to properly get a grasp on, so I doubt there'll ever be a "one size fits all" policy approach, which is likely for the best. Case-by-case basis, treat the person not the "problem." Whatever the solution winds up being, it's something that needs some proper careful thought.
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