How does ssj4 compare to ssg?

[Velvette]

That is kind of what I was saying. SS4 is raw power, physical strength, and SSG is more about ki and big brain time.

Yeah, pretty much. It would make more sense since when they turned into Apes they were all like "I'm gonna fuck shit up" and then they proceed to smash everything

 

[Beerus]

Yeah, pretty much. It would make more sense since when they turned into Apes they were all like "I'm gonna fuck shit up" and then they proceed to smash everything

GT should have made them more animalistic in their personalities. Both Goku and Vegeta were too soft. If they ever introduce this form as canon then I hope they make the personalities of this transformation more wreckless and destructive just like the great ape.

 

[Velvette]

GT should have made them more animalistic in their personalities. Both Goku and Vegeta were too soft. If they ever introduce this form as canon then I hope they make the personalities of this transformation more wreckless and destructive just like the great ape.

That is what I would want as well. Because seeing a reckless and destructive Goku or Vegeta would be a nice change of pace for both of them. And we would get more moves out of them besides their set, so

 

[Beerus]

That is what I would want as well. Because seeing a reckless and destructive Goku or Vegeta would be a nice change of pace for both of them. And we would get more moves out of them besides their set, so

Make it so they have to overcome themselves while fighting an enemy. Hell, make them fight each other again because they can't control themselves.

 

[Velvette]

Make it so they have to overcome themselves while fighting an enemy. Hell, make them fight each other again because they can't control themselves.

I would be down for a SS4 Vegeta v SS4 Goku fight especially if you base on Vegeta's instinct to want to defeat Goku, which has become a minor thing now, but still. Vegeta becoming more primal would make sense that that would come back

 

[Beerus]

I would be down for a SS4 Vegeta v SS4 Goku fight especially if you base on Vegeta's instinct to want to defeat Goku, which has become a minor thing now, but still. Vegeta becoming more primal would make sense that that would come back

Let's just hope if it becomes a thing, they really take advantage of it.

 

[Velvette]

Let's just hope if it becomes a thing, they really take advantage of it.

Here's hoping because besides the look and everything of SS4 the reason why I like was it made Goku kind of a stone cold badass, which is the polar opposite of Goku

 

[Super Kami Guru]

A more primal attitude to go with SSJ4 would be absolutely amazing. Vegeta I can see easily fitting in with that, he's a savage warrior already, but seeing a savage Goku...that'd be incredible!

 

[Yoshi]

Back during Battle Of Gods and Fukkatsu No F, I believed SSJ4 was stronger. After Super however, I now believe SSG is stronger. I forgot my arguments for this though because it's been so long since I debated GT and Super.