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He brought the vote or die campaign back again apparently. I sure hope South Park is taking notes. LOL
 

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He brought the vote or die campaign back again apparently. I sure hope South Park is taking notes. LOL
"For Real This time!" Ugh. I mean, voting is important for a country, I agree with that part, the theatrics...could do without that...

South Park doing a v2 would be amazing! You will vote for the Turd Sandwich...or ELSE!
 
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"For Real This time!" Ugh. I mean, voting is important for a country, I agree with that part, the theatrics...could do without that...

South Park doing a v2 would be amazing! You will vote for the Turd Sandwich...or ELSE!
Regardless who wins, South Park will do it justice! LOL
 
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Regardless who wins, South Park will do it justice! LOL
Agreed, they've had a couple of great election episodes that really highlight how ridiculous it all is, and just how outlandish people get about it...looking forward to another one, hopefully.
 
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Never really considered it, because when we first came to the US it was only supposed to be a holiday and then back to the UK...then my parents decided nope, we're staying, applied for green cards and...well...that was it. Citizenship is never something I've really considered or cared about, I'm fine with a green card, honestly.
Take it from me and file the N-400 for citizenship. It's only going to get more expensive and you don't want to end up in removal proceedings before an Immigration judge over stupid shit.

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Take it from me and file the N-400 for citizenship. It's only going to get more expensive and you don't want to end up in removal proceedings before an Immigration judge over stupid shit.

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What is the cost of it now? I mean the process for a green card was a doozie but we hired a lawyer and got screwed over by a doctor. lol
 

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Take it from me and file the N-400 for citizenship. It's only going to get more expensive and you don't want to end up in removal proceedings before an Immigration judge over stupid shit.

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I'm not sure I'll ever both with it, honestly. I do agree I don't want to end up getting removed for stupid reasons, but there's a part of my brain that's contemplating either moving north to Canada or back the UK just to get decent healthcare again. Talking to expats of both the US and UK it seems to be an easier process if you're a citizen of a commonwealth nation like the UK than coming in from the US, so...just keep my UK citizenship alone and hopefully if I do end up going, I'm alright. Likewise, if I go back to the UK, I'm already a citizen and don't need to worry about immigration nonsense, just get my NHS number back, find some member of my family willing to house me for a bit, find a job and off I go. Then again, who knows, maybe I meet a pair of tiddies I wanna live with and jiggle with forever, then I might actually consider it ;).

What is the cost of it now? I mean the process for a green card was a doozie but we hired a lawyer and got screwed over by a doctor. lol

Fortunately the renewal process ten years down the line is pretty straight-forward. So, if Jay doesn't grab citizenship, it's just a case of filling in forms, taking a new picture and paying the fees...a fair few weeks of waiting and a card shows up in the mail.
 

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What is the cost of it now? I mean the process for a green card was a doozie but we hired a lawyer and got screwed over by a doctor. lol
N-400 is more straight forward because you're self petitioning for naturalization. You fill out the form, prove you have anywhere from 3 years if you're the dependent of a U.S. citizen or 5 years if you came in via another green card holder or employment based. It's $725, but I heard it's going to go up significantly because USCIS funds it's on user fees and they need money badly because of COVID.
 
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N-400 is more straight forward because you're self petitioning for naturalization. You fill out the form, prove you have anywhere from 3 years if you're the dependent of a U.S. citizen or 5 years if you came in via another green card holder or employment based. It's $725, but I heard it's going to go up significantly because USCIS funds it's on user fees and they need money badly because of COVID.
Damn. I was thinking it was a lot less. I thought it was only like $300 max. LOL
 

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Fortunately the renewal process ten years down the line is pretty straight-forward. So, if Jay doesn't grab citizenship, it's just a case of filling in forms, taking a new picture and paying the fees...a fair few weeks of waiting and a card shows up in the mail.
He wants to get citizenship so he can vote. That and he wants to be an American citizen in general.
 

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I'm not sure I'll ever both with it, honestly. I do agree I don't want to end up getting removed for stupid reasons, but there's a part of my brain that's contemplating either moving north to Canada or back the UK just to get decent healthcare again. Talking to expats of both the US and UK it seems to be an easier process if you're a citizen of a commonwealth nation like the UK than coming in from the US, so...just keep my UK citizenship alone and hopefully if I do end up going, I'm alright. Likewise, if I go back to the UK, I'm already a citizen and don't need to worry about immigration nonsense, just get my NHS number back, find some member of my family willing to house me for a bit, find a job and off I go. Then again, who knows, maybe I meet a pair of tiddies I wanna live with and jiggle with forever, then I might actually consider it ;).



Fortunately the renewal process ten years down the line is pretty straight-forward. So, if Jay doesn't grab citizenship, it's just a case of filling in forms, taking a new picture and paying the fees...a fair few weeks of waiting and a card shows up in the mail.
Canada is a f'ing dump so you definitely don't want to move there and I'm in the nicest part so what does that tell you? I understand that you're in a unique situation so gov't provided healthcare would suit you due to the lack of full time employment. Not a fan of what I've seen. It's great if you have a sniffle and need to see the doctor, but if you're dicked up and need anything more than an x-ray then it's not covered. If you need to see a specialist like say an oncologist the average wait time is 6 months or more. I'm also not a fan of having a nominal tax rate of greater than 40% to pay for everyone in the country to have basic healthcare. Call me heartless because I work hard and I work for my family. If I decide to give anything of myself it's going to be through charity not because the gov't is reaching into my pockets.
 
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I'm also not a fan of having a nominal tax rate of greater than 40% to pay for everyone in the country to have basic healthcare. Call me heartless because I work hard and I work for my family. If I decide to give anything of myself it's going to be through charity not because the gov't is reaching into my pockets.
I mean... I am the same way. I have no issue with charity but my money goes to my family first and when I do give, I want to be able to give to causes I believe in or people I know locally who need help. People have no issue giving their money away either. Look at all the money BLM got and how much was raised for fire relief in the US. If people want to help each other, then do so, without the government. Start something like St Jude's. We should have the option to help, not be forced to.
 

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He wants to get citizenship so he can vote. That and he wants to be an American citizen in general.

*TSA looks at passport, hears accent* "What part of 'murica you from?" "Oh, you know, England." "Damn, I didn't know we done owned that, too!"

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Canada is a f'ing dump so you definitely don't want to move there and I'm in the nicest part so what does that tell you? I understand that you're in a unique situation so gov't provided healthcare would suit you due to the lack of full time employment. Not a fan of what I've seen. It's great if you have a sniffle and need to see the doctor, but if you're dicked up and need anything more than an x-ray then it's not covered. If you need to see a specialist like say an oncologist the average wait time is 6 months or more. I'm also not a fan of having a nominal tax rate of greater than 40% to pay for everyone in the country to have basic healthcare. Call me heartless because I work hard and I work for my family. If I decide to give anything of myself it's going to be through charity not because the gov't is reaching into my pockets.

Even with full time employment, when you have health issues that you have to keep shelling out a small fortune to get the medication and supplies you need, you realize pretty quickly how detrimental privatized healthcare really is. I've been on an insulin pump since I was 11 and the costs associated with it under privatized healthcare can be just ridiculous. I've also had surgeries with privatized and state provided healthcare, and the state provided healthcare was so much better than privatized. I get the tax implications and I understand not wanting to have to cover everyone else with the money you work hard for, but I have to say, if you compare the NHS or the French equivalent, for example, against the US healthcare system...it's not really close. Yes, it sucks to have to wait for specialist care, or to have to wait for non-essential procedures, but IMO, universal healthcare > privatized medicine that leaves most people out in the cold if they can't afford surgeries they need in order to live.
 
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*TSA looks at passport, hears accent* "What part of 'murica you from?" "Oh, you know, England." "Damn, I didn't know we done owned that, too!"
Someone thought Jay was Australian. Another person thought he was from New England... You know, where the Patriots are from... LOL
 

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I used to get Australian all the time, too. Never understood it! New England....well...closer, I guess! :thinking:
Yeah, I can hear the difference 99% of the time. Being from the place the Patriots are from made me laugh though. lol
 

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*TSA looks at passport, hears accent* "What part of 'murica you from?" "Oh, you know, England." "Damn, I didn't know we done owned that, too!"



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Even with full time employment, when you have health issues that you have to keep shelling out a small fortune to get the medication and supplies you need, you realize pretty quickly how detrimental privatized healthcare really is. I've been on an insulin pump since I was 11 and the costs associated with it under privatized healthcare can be just ridiculous. I've also had surgeries with privatized and state provided healthcare, and the state provided healthcare was so much better than privatized. I get the tax implications and I understand not wanting to have to cover everyone else with the money you work hard for, but I have to say, if you compare the NHS or the French equivalent, for example, against the US healthcare system...it's not really close. Yes, it sucks to have to wait for specialist care, or to have to wait for non-essential procedures, but IMO, universal healthcare > privatized medicine that leaves most people out in the cold if they can't afford surgeries they need in order to live.
I agree with your assessment. I can't speak for the NHS because I haven't experienced it. My only basis for comparison is Canada's socialized medicine. ER wait times exceed 4-8 hours if you go to a public hospital here. At least we can agree that it's not free and that it is subsidized by the gov't through taxpayer money.

So yes, someone in your shoes that doesn't have employer covered healthcare and does have life long and longstanding health issues would benefit greater from a socialized system. Our biggest downside in the U.S. is the cost and that's because there's no competition between states, but there's also no incentive because Big Pharma will fight it tooth and nail to bring down those barriers.
 
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Yeah, I can hear the difference 99% of the time. Being from the place the Patriots are from made me laugh though. lol

Yeah, definitely an interesting option for the accent. Great New Englanders, like Jay, Marky Mark, John Cena...

I agree with your assessment. I can't speak for the NHS because I haven't experienced it. My only basis for comparison is Canada's socialized medicine. ER wait times exceed 4-8 hours if you go to a public hospital here. At least we can agree that it's not free and that it is subsidized by the gov't through taxpayer money.

So yes, someone in your shoes that doesn't have employer covered healthcare and does have life long and longstanding health issues would benefit greater from a socialized system. Our biggest downside in the U.S. is the cost and that's because there's no competition between states, but there's also no incentive because Big Pharma will fight it tooth and nail to bring down those barriers.

Oh it's absolutely tax subsidized, it'd be foolish to consider it free.

The US system has some absolutely insane costs associated with it, and yeah, there's no real reason for companies to want to change that, because it's just too profitable for them, patients be damned.
 
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